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I tried this some more – also with 20 cm matches for a longer burn time – and I've come to think that it's a bad idea. Generally, I feel that my magick works better, the stronger I feel it. And I feel it more strongly, if I can focus on it more. The less I do on the physical plane, the more I can concentrate on actually feeling the magick, on making the energy flow. Managing the burning match in my hand detracts from that, if only a little.

As a second point... what is my intent? Let's say it's to be healthy, or to have a friend pass his exam. In the first case, send the energy directly into me. In the second case, to my friend, or to the visualisation of him having passed the exam. Send the energy to the target. Cut out the candle or match middleman.

Edit: Another point – imagine you want to do magick while on public transport. Imagine you want to influence a dice roll in a game with your friends. No matchstick there, hm? Just operate on energy and the feeling of magick directly.

Sometimes I'm just in the mood for this kind of experiments :D.

Today I read the typical advice of more specific goals. So I'm rolling two dice, and did magick for "Ten and higher". One thing I learned in these experiments is that it's important to roll the dice at a peak of the magick-feeling, of the energy flow. For me, this is usually during an exhale.

I roll series of 5.

"Ten and higher": 11!, 10,7, 10, 10
No magick: 8, 4, 10, 8, 3

Very promising. What I also learned previously is that this is somehow draining, even if I don't feel drained, and usually can't be sustained for long in a day. Still, interesting.

"Ten and higher":  5, 7, 6

Yeah, you see. So maybe not more than one series per... hour or half-day or something.

One more detail: We can tell that we do magick by the feeling of it. Hence, more feeling correlates with more magick – and more effect. So maximise the intensity of the sensation. This is perfectly obvious and yet I realised it only very recently. This means it must be a very good thought, which the Veil kept away for a long time.

06.10.26

A new day, the first roll, 12! (Further attempts yesterday evening all were unimpressive)
Now I want to try if it also works with a dice cup: 5, 9, 7 – unimpressive
More normal rolls ("ten or higher"): 7, 7, 7 – yeah right. Crazy too... 8, 8

I also did like four attempts of 10 dice at the same time... the idea is, since this is exhausting, maybe more dice allow to get more numbers before exhaustion sets in. But all numbers end up very average. Just now I got a 35, which is exactly average, just like 7 with two dice.

No magick: 6, 7, 3, 10, 7
"As high as possible": 7, 7, 6, 4

"Ten, eleven, twelve": 7 – seems like the energy is gone for the morning.

Edit: It's so strange... I rolled yet another 7. Then I thought "Maybe it's enough to show that we always get at least the average, there are no 2s and 3s" – the next roll was a 3.

Feels like it works "capriciously", as Pope Pete said. Like it has emotions. I remember that the Tarot and the Pendulum also don't react well to test questions.

This all sounds crazy, but maybe whatever makes magick work is a more conscious process that I think, and displays this capriciousness when I do things just for statistics...

I decided to "test" this theory and go for "seven or higher" – 6. There is clearly something going on here.

But the lesson is I guess once again, only do what I really care about, not something that's just for demonstration. But why?! I clearly care about these numbers...

I think I start sounding deranged :( , but a question is: Is this magick being capricious, or is this the Veil preventing something that makes magick too visible? Because the former would need to be respected, while the latter might need to be pushed through.

Trying to push through with maximum visualisation and energy flow from a Linking Sigil – surely the tool of choice when it comes to rending the Veil: "as high as possible" – 8,9,8,4,5 – one below the expected.

And if it was the Veil, it shouldn't work at the start either, I guess? Whereas I have really often seen the pattern, that a new idea works at the first 5-10 attempts, producing crazy numbers, and then falls off. The sounds more like capriciousness than like the Veil's anti-magick to me. But crazy speculation it of course remains.

I think they way to make progress on this question is to put the same serious amounts of magick into things I actually need.

Hi and sorry for the late answer. Welcome to the forum :)

> by way of Wizard forum and before that an Ellis Transport

That sounds like an interesting story – feel free to share here or on another platform. Our active spaces are on Facebook and Discord, as linked here https://dkmu.org/ . 

> the introductory books

https://dkmu.org/text/DKMU_Oistar_Guide2.1.pdf this one is a good starting point, I think. 

https://storytellerway.com/2013/02/06/just-effing-magick/ and this is a true highlight on how to do magick, written by a founder of the Marauder Underground.

A long time ago, Ahavah said something absolutely brilliant on Discord or so. It was so good that I remembered forever, but somehow never wrote it down. You might have noticed that the Veil doesn't like some info to spread. Let me try writing it now, even though this of course a vague paraphrase, not a quote:

When you study magick as theory without practice, you actually don't even have theory. Because without practice, you don't know what's true. You might as well be reading Dungeons & Dragons "magic". If you don't try things, you don't know what works, what works for you – you know nothing. 

Just a quick report: Today I really cared about some digital random events and tried to influence them. Let's be honest, it was lootboxes. And it worked – I got what I wanted in a way that is spectacularly unlikely. I got 20 of the desired item, when something around 5 was the expected value. Probability about 0.00054% (~1 in 185,000).

Then I tried replicating this influence in multiple other digital randomness sources about which I didn't care so much, and got no visible results at all. So Pope Pete seems vindicated – "Magic works capriciously and non-repeatably. We should not squander our abilities on things that do not really matter to us."

> thanks for the tips!

You're welcome :)

> do you have enough sway to get someone unbanned from the discord server?

The admins there vaguely know me, but I'm not sure if they'd care about my opinion on bans. In either case, I feel that I can't really vouch for you, because I don't know you well enough. 

> I will try the Facebook group

That would be my advice :) If you become known there, you could ask the admins for an appeal of the Discord ban, as there is some overlap between the FB group admins and the Discord admins.

Hi and welcome back to the forum :)

> I did not write this record as a DKMU godform cycle. I noticed the correspondence today.

I feel you. When one taps into the current, synchronocities of course happen :) The structure emerges on its own. Very nice.

> The dates arranged themselves. The hypersigil is active.

Exactly.

> I got banned off the Discord for $PWC. That one is dead for me. I am out of it financially. If anyone wants the remains of that page as a peace offering, take them. I will not touch it. This record is a different vessel.

I was not on Discord when that happened and don't know this story. Generally, I was on Discord only rarely and briefly. 

> I am telling you that.

You are probably telling that to pretty much just me. The forum is very inactive. Like, see here https://forum.dkmu.org/index.php?action=recent for how "often" something happens. If you want to reach more Marauders, find the Facebook group or the Discord (if you aren't still banned) via dkmu.org  

Hi :)
the link https://dkmu.org/ here works for me...

https://discord.com/invite/qkxvqrMXPP

Note to self: It doesn't work very reliably. And one can always wonder if it's not coincidence anyway.

This is an argument for doing magick where I care about the actual result. If my actual wishes are fulfilled by accident, I will still be happy.

This returns me to Carrol, who says "I do not participate in parapsychology experiments, and I advise my students not to do so. Magic works capriciously and non-repeatably. We should not squander our abilities on things that do not really matter to us."

https://www.specularium.org/magic/the-dean-radin-pete-carroll-rap

>  so if you know the admin there I would be very thankful if you could ask them to let "the blues doctor" join ;)

Frater Alysyrose – one of the two founders of the Domus Kaotica – happened to be online :)

You're in.

To my knowledge, the reddit is unused.

> Also big thanks for your explanations about the LS! I think I will try out the dot next time:)

You're welcome. You bring a breath of fresh air, both to the forum and the LS tagging. Obviously not all tags are posted about, and nor do they have to be, but it's still very nice to get some of the activity I like :) (You'll see in the group, that posts are very often off-topic. Feel free to start threads about magick and LS tags, even if you don't see any :D )

Hi BluesMage :)

Sorry for taking so long to approve your account. My mistake.

Welcome to the forum.

> Looks a bit like I got here after the party has long ended

The party goes on as long as the LS tags go on, and they do. Just not here on the forum, sadly.

If you want to talk to more members, you can find us on Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/DomusKaoticaMarauderUnderground/ and Discord https://discord.com/invite/qkxvqrMXPP – some are in both places, some only in one. I'm on FB for example – well, and also here on the forum :D

> the dot, as some say it represents Ellis and I do not have a strong connection to her

The dot – in my mind – ties your LS to all others. It's kind of the connector. So I recommend doing it.

However, this is the DKMU – try out your own approach and see how it goes :) . The proof of the pudding is in the eating, while the proof of the LS tag I think is in whether you feel the energy around it, or an energy influx into yourself.

> While making the sigil I focused on a positive intend (as filter) to bring making into this world

Jup, filter according to you desire, nice.

> That was a place that felt magical and powerful to me, but also violated. I hoped to revive it.

I like this a lot.

> with this sigil I link the worlds

The tradition is "And Upon This Mark, I Unite The Worlds" – AUTM:IUTW. But once again, you do you :)

> but very strange and unfamiliar. I got goosebumps.

Welcome to the current. I feel that you can call yourself a Marauder now, if you want.

In case you're curious, the "Marauder" part of our Domus Kaotica and Marauder Underground is a reference to https://whitewolf.fandom.com/wiki/Marauder – "Within the bubble of alternate reality that surrounds them, their hallucinations and bizarre rules are real; objects and creatures that come into contact with the bubble are transformed to fit in with its rules."

Speaking of Energy, Mulberry from the BALG forum has a mini-guide on how to get it, instead of e.g. pranic vampirism:

"Full body or pore breathing. You visualise the energy you want to cultivate, I like to send my mind out as far to the edges of the cosmos as I can imagine, and see the energy flowing in and filling your body with your breath.

Then, as you breath in, instead of just breathing in through your mouth, see you entire skin all over breathing in the energy through your pores and energy points as well.
As the in breath completes, your body is full of light, or Qi.

Here's the trick: on the out breath, visualise compressing that Qi into one of your Dan Tians. These are energy centers that act as storage for QI. Try to fill them, and compress the energy in them to pack more in, over and over. After a while they tend to start glowing in your minds eye.

Lusting after power is forbidden in qigong, but it's known that as your qi cultivation improves psychic senses and 'special functions' as they are called, automatically awaken."

Hi everyone :)

You might know I tried lots and lots of things to get a short term external effect. Candle flames, incense smoke, a milligram scales, a sensitive thermometer, an EMF meter, lots of dice... and probably other things that I don't remember anymore.

I think I finally found something. it has to be something where there are many variables, and where you are involved a lot, because it's easier to influence your body then something else. So scales and thermometers don't do it. How about throwing a single die and catching it? We tried a few rounds, aiming for 2:

2,5,2,1,2,5
6,2,2,6,3,2
4,2,6,3,2,1
6,4,1,1,1,4

Yeah, the first 12 throws head six 2s. The probability of 3 in 6 is I think ~5%.  Twice in a row will of course be much less. But it's not very pleasant to catch a die and the calculations are slightly complicated.

So we switched to coins. The classic coin toss, where it turns a lot. You do the throw and also the catch. Many variables and you are involved a lot. Here are a few results:

-,+,+,+,+
+,-,-,-,+
+,+,+,-,+
-,+,+,-,+
4+2+4+3 = 13
13 of 20
13 * 5 = 65%

Four in a row happen occasionally – probability 0.5^4 = 1 / 16 = 0.0625 = 6.25%. Once I had 11 correct throws in a row – probability = 0,000488281 = 0,048%.

Of course I tried tossing the same coin without magick, and no, it does not fall on the same side a lot.

So I really recommend trying this. Most of what we do is holding the coin in the flip position, and then charging it. More specifically, we charge the arm and the coin with "We get heads" or so, and the happiness that we will feel then. Pour a lot of energy into it. Like really go all out for a few seconds. Then flip the coin and try to keep the energy flow going at least a little during the spin and the catch.

[Exercise #1: Energy Ball]

I realised that this kind of lacks the basics. How to feel some energy in the first place. Here's what the book says

Exercise #1: Energy Ball

1. Breathe in and out. Imagine that as you breathe in and out, the invisible vital energy from around you is filling you.
2. Rub your hands together vigorously. Imagine that an invisible energy that you have gathered, is coming together where you rub your hands.
3. Keep rubbing your hands together.
4. Stop rubbing your hands, and then move them about an inch apart.
5. Move your hands closer to about a quarter inch apart, and then back to an inch a part.
6. Do this several times. You will feel warmth or a pressure. This is energy.
7. Repeat steps 1 through 5, but this time cup your hands together to make a ball made from that sensation of warmth of pressure.
8. Repeat steps 1 through 6, but make the ball larger and smaller. See what happens if you try to change how the ball feels. Play with different sensations.
9. When done, gently reabsorb your energy ball into your body. You can do this by thinking of your hand sucking it in, or even breathing it in. Play with different methods of doing this.

You can just learn to feel this energy, and to move it through visualisation, in rhythm with your breathing. For me, it's mainly about feeling it flow into a sigil or visualisation, or feeling it swirl around me. For the above exercise, try to get more of that feeling, push more energy into the ball. This is probably a good exercise for a beginner, to know that all this is real :)

[Distance Sigil Healing]

Here are two more concrete examples

Distance Sigil Healing

While energy is not confined to time or space in many ways, I find it satisfying to send energy directly to those in need.
1. Make a statement of intent for someone to be healed.
2. Create a sigil and a word of power out of the statement.
3. As you make the sigil in the air energetically, imagine it is a portal sending the healing energies to the target directly – letting the energy go where it needs to.
4. Focus on sending healing.
5. When done, close the portal and banish the sigil.

The Magickal Dart

When you need to directly affect a situation and end a conflict – this is the way. I use these in extreme situations. This is like having a loaded gun and I recommend that you treat this working as the weapons it is. [..] The dart pierces the aura and can go deep into the target's energy body.
1. Form energy in your projective hand in a ball or any other shape.
2. Put as much energy and emotion into that shape.
3. Feel and transform the shape into something that looks kind of pointy and sharp.
4. Cut the cord between you and the energy dart.
5. Throw the energetic dart at your target. Imaging it is piercing their aura and hitting straight into their energetic body.
6. Banish, purify, ground, and center.

I very much recommend this book :)