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I very much enjoy the idea of this thread. my mind works in similar ways, may need to create a thread like this.
I also enjoy all of the ideas contained within it!! thank you for sharing =)
Member Introductions / Re: Yo
October 18, 2018, 01:56:27 AM

I can definitely relate to the love of Ellis, magic for the sake of magic!!
Thank you again for the link!! fortunately I do have a copy of liber sigillum, the sigils I cannot find are for various servitors people have created over the years, but no worries they all show up fashionably late once the party starts.

Thank you for the links!! I appreciate that. interestingly I am subscribed to Arjil yet have not seen any of his videos
I am aware the name Ellis arises from the pronunciation of LS.

I am more trying to intuit hidden connections that were not necessarily intentional. mainly having to do with Ellis as an aspect of Babalon

to clarify it is definitely not official, my technique is something like cyber-divination not unlike bibliomancy, focusing in on root words and symbols
Member Introductions / Re: Yo
October 18, 2018, 01:25:45 AM

why thank you for the link. I rather like the alice in wonderland aspect of the dkmu current.

Right now I am working with very few of my own servitors, mainly existing dkmu egregores.
namely Ellis is the one I have most connection with, the others are something less tangible and in your face and something I am spending more effort on exploring with this godform cycle.

Zalty and Jimlad and Ser Bluntus ,Zillion are some others I work with. I am certain there are more but they kind of hide in the woodwork until I find their sigil somewhere hiding.
Member Introductions / Re: Hey
October 17, 2018, 03:01:22 PM
Heyo. I hope you find yourself at home =)

I would now like to explore the etymology of ELLIS in this comment and how she may be tied into here.

EL is a semitic word simply meaning "god" or deity, typically the head deity of a pantheon.

EL was also the supreme Canaanite male god.

His Consort, Asherah, the Queen of Heaven.
Her main epithet was qaniyatu 'ilhm which may be translated as "Creatrix of the gods". Her name may translate to grove and there was a tradition of planting trees and erecting poles in her honor.

She is also known as Inanna, and her symbol is the lion and eight pointed star. She is associated with love, sex, war, fertility, desire, justice, political power.

Just some thoughts to consider for now.

The Enuma Elis (trans:when on high) is the Babylonian creation myth.

Enuma Elis is the primary source for Mesopotamian mythology. it speaks of seven days of creation, and also of the primordial watery chaos. It is a praise to Marduk and probably dates to the first Babylonian dynasty (1895-1595 b.c.e.)

It is written in cuneiform on 7 clay tablets.
The DKMU Vault / Re: Godform Cycle 2018
October 16, 2018, 01:35:07 AM

Today I did some work with Zalty, namely looking for some inspiration to do something formalized tomorrow.
I received two books in the mail today, one of which depicts an anchor on the front and a fish as well. The overall theme of the book is river spirits. (Star.Ships. by Gordon White.)
From what small bit of the book I read, there was some vague mentionings of ship but I was awfully tired and did not get one lick of sleep last night.

I ate some mushrooms, hoping to get some blue Zalty exuberant energies flowing and ended up binge reading all night about Kaos Babalon.
Someone in the fb group mentions that Ellis making this her month, I can definitely agree that's how it seems.
The other book contained some clues about Babalon, but that Is another thread.

So I ended up falling asleep needless to say.. and mostly forgot about Zalty until I went outside and was randomly digging around in some of the ganja soil pots looking at rocks I put there when I found a sand dollar. What do you know, Zalty's sigils is on it! lmao I seriously forgot all about it, but I saw a picture of someone's recently and was like hey, I have one of those lmao.

So I stuck a nag champa in the sand dollar and smoked some hashish in the name of Zalty. the hashish was made last night under the influence of mushrooms and 156 Kaos Babalon energies.
I was compelled again towards donning the hisshou and hannya during the hashish making ritual, perhaps this is not godform related and is just personal juju, marauder regalia.

I'm not done yet.

So the 16th I worked and came home and slept all damn day.
I did not end up doing anything formal, but then again that is not my style and is just my attempt to be respectful and legit in all of this.
I did however have a flashback/ dejavu dream while sleeping. I seen a pirate version of myself, except I was skeletal and my eyes were completely white. almost like a scene from pirates of the Caribbean, when all of the members are apart of the ship itself.

Also this song speaks.
Chromatics-Dagger Moon

I am the path that is laid bare by the rushing waters.

I am rooted in the valley of ages

I am fed from three wells

I rest atop the tree of life

I dwell within the tree of knowledge

All manner of wealth and virtue

May be found among me

I alone stand firmly planted

Edit: October 17th. Yesterday I received a lot of fresh grapes from someone's vine that will be used in some mead. also today I got a splinter in my big toe, ouch. never really experienced the big toe thing before.

Welcome searcher!
I have fished you out of the web on purpose, and for your own good.
On this breezy Wednesday,
you happen to have approached a site of knowledge, fashioned in the manner of the "web of old". There are no banners and no advertisement whatsoever on my site, where you will meet others that are interested in learning - and teaching - searching methodologies.  You'll gain knowledge and power here that will enable you to search the web MUCH more effectively in the future.
The WORDS you have used for your search are contained somewhere in the huge 'catching list' below. But the PAGES you are searching for are hidden somewhere on the huge web. You'll learn here how to find them. Let's hope you will, one beautiful day, be a fisher instead of a fish and contribute yourself to our vast wealth of knowledge.

approaching strange waters, we are all soaking wet.
The Armchair's Lounge / Re: Who else is in here?
October 14, 2018, 10:54:32 PM
I can definitely agree, and what is VF ?
I really like this idea!! I believe I have seen something very, very similar in an anime called A Certain Magical Index in the episode #17 The power of god (archangel)

sorry I have nothing quite to add as far as actual intents go. But, this is a thread of the same name and is one of my favorites.
General Occultism / Re: Cyber Magic
October 14, 2018, 02:07:12 AM
Quote from: Rasafar on July 25, 2016, 04:22:40 PM
Not sure if necro-ing a thread is a big deal here at this stage in the game, but hoping to reinvigorate ideas others may have regarding possibilities.

The information model, and computer simulation models of reality I find to be extremely useful in helping organize possible break-points for taking this a step further, magical coding, hacking, data transmission, etc.

I hold the loose viewpoint that perhaps what we are working with when working with "reality" is a holographic projection, rendered by those conscious beings throughout the cosmos (perhaps consciousness taking on a more pantheistic station, where it permeates it). Overall, however, we render according to what our hardware will translate for us...light, sound, taste, texture, etc. Meanwhile, the number-crunching goes on in the background, at a much lower-functioning level. To me, what ritual seems to do, is basically be accomplishing magical workings with a few different avenues of execution:

1) We ask a super-user or admin for help/assistance to accomplish a task...the IT guy near your cube cuts you some slack if you bring him a box of donuts...the sysadmin puts a ticket through to install new software on your machine, etc.

2) We are the super-user...but maybe don't know it...forgotten password, whathaveyou...attaining higher levels of power as we progress through super-user, admin, god-tier authorities.

3) We "hack" the system in one of two ways: Software and hardware. Software/hardware can be by addressing tabboos, shadow-work, killing psychic/karmic zombie processes...and ritual magick...aka buffer-overflow.

Standard ritual magic seems to employ one of these three methods, often times in combination. Chaos magic seems to focus on the third, imo (although entities may be involved etc.). At its base, magical regalia, ephemera, etc. all seem to set the stage for overloading the senses, allowing the will to be driven down into the subconscious (processor level) where our extraneous code is run (the visualized and energized sigil after the attainment of gnosis).

I only carry on about it because I feel there's a great deal of crossover in theory that could be applied to both sides of technology and magickal technology which seems to benefit both. Using a computer-information model in magic could help construct more clearly defined spells, more akin to magickal programs, that when run will perform a certain set of actions.

Going over to the technological side of things, I've had thoughts on the creation of magical sigils which act as logic gates, chips, data-transmisison (wired, wireless, psychic, whathave you), into the possibilities of a similar vein as what Homer was discussing. Magical circuit boards.

Another way of looking at it could be the way Terence McKenna discusses the Alchemists view of their work, as an externalization of internal processes which when modified, also modify the user. Wearable sigils with joule-thiefs and/or small caps charging batteries, solar powered, etc.

Yet another attempt could be a way to harness the magical power of classical domains (elements, planets, etc) via a specialized code or library for whatever language an individual chooses....literally an m-code. Really it wouldn't be much more than data points...alignments/positions of planets, temperatures, fluctuations in seasons, etc. all easily sourceable from various places online from satellites, geometric and weather patterns, observatories, etc.

Especially considering we already have a magical network, and various workings and nodes throughout, we already have an informational model that seems to work well as-is. Many of use, even the most remote of connected to the network (not just the fleshcrafted) have experienced info transmission via Ellis direction or gotten hints, dreams, summons, or other information about goings on away from our physical locales, but not unlike any internet messaging system (whether it's IRC, phpBB, VoIP, etc.).

I would love to see what other ideas we could come up with. Throw in some orgone generators/devices? Create standardized protocols for encrypted communications? Intelligent energy distribution? Add an end-user magician at the terminal and there's no real limit immediately apparent.

I very much enjoyed the thoughts shared here and I am going to apply this, somehow.
Member Introductions / Re: Yo
October 14, 2018, 01:21:16 AM
Swept in by the currents
The DKMU Vault / Godform Cycle 2018
October 14, 2018, 01:12:15 AM

Hey all, going to conclude some thoughts on my workings here.
I'm rather vague so don't go getting your hopes up lmao.
I hopped in right at the end of TRIGAG.
October 13th 11.59 PM
Starshadow, Shadow Beast, Tezcatlipoca, Fenrir, Gattsu

"Let's light your shadow on fire"
A CRKT Hisshou and a Hannya

A skeleton animated by dense clouds of black smoke.
A great black dragon, seeking to destroy a castle.

The Toltecs look at creation as consisting of the Nagual and the
tonal. The Nagual is all that is. It is unstructured. The Nagual
condenses and the tonal is formed. The tonal is structured energy.

He looked at the stars again, and then he realized that it's not the stars that create light, but rather light that creates the stars. "Everything is made of light," he said, "and the space in-between isn't empty." And he knew that everything that exists is one living being, and that light is the messenger of life, because it is alive and contains all information.
Then he realized that although he was made of stars, he was not those stars. "I am in-between the stars," he thought. So he called the stars the tonal, and the light between the stars the nagual, and he knew that what created the harmony and peace between the two is Life or Intent. Without Life, the tonal and the nagual could not exist. Life is the force of the absolute, the supreme, the Creator who creates everything.-D.M.Ruiz, The 4 Agreements.
Chaos Magic & Beyond / 156 Gematria/ origins of current
October 12, 2018, 01:04:09 AM

I am curious of the origins and numerology of Kaos-Babalon. please feel free to share any thoughts and clues here.

Talking Jack Parsons with Paul Weston.

starting around the eleven minute mark I believe.

Interestingly they mention Jack Parsons, Crowley and the
babalon working in this interview with High Times columnist
Chris Bennet, a psychonaut of sorts for sure.

"the 156 value has been used in the occult tradition only
sparingly, if that, aside from some usages by Crowley,
particularly in his Liber Cheth Vel Vallum Abigni
SubFigura CLVI, which accords itself chiefly to Bavbalon,
the "bride of chaos". Modern revivals began in 1988
whereby one Joel Biroco, in London, performed the
Kaos-Babalon working. a magickal operation intended to
"supersede the now defunct 93 current of Thelema" and to
transform the chaos current..

From Liber Sigillum

A Paul Weston lecture from Glastonbury Occult Conference
March 21st 2015.

The story of the Babalon Working is an occult legend.
Rocket scientist Jack Parsons, future founder of Scientology
L Ron Hubbard, and fiercely individual witch-woman artist
Marjorie Cameron used the ideas of Aleister Crowley to try and
bring forth a goddess into the modern world of the A Bomb and
Gnostic revival. The results were mysterious, controversial, and
even catastrophic. Paul uses material from his book
Aleister Crowley and the Aeon of Horus to give unique
insight into this story, including a contentious take on the
role of Hubbard.

Deliberately posted on the anniversary of Jack Parsons death.

The Babalon working was a series of magic ceremonies or rituals performed from January to Marc of 1946 by author, pioneer rocket-fuel scientist and occultist Jack Parsons
and scientology founder L Ron Hubbard. This ritual was essentially designed to manifest an individual incarnation of the archetypal divine feminine called Babalon.
The project was based on the idea of Aleister Crowley and his description of a similar project in his 1917 novel moonchild.

This aspect of the current was also brought to my attention

"The 156 current occupies much uncharted territory, it being
primarily concerned with female embodiment practices and the
manifestation of new formulas of evolutionary sexuality.

During the early years, I experienced some incredibly challenging
and volatile encounters with Babalon and was often cut adrift,
submerged within highly dramatic, turbulent states of
entrancement and obsession. The intensity of such experiences
can push one to edges of sanity, but at the time there was little in
terms of guidance apart from the presence of Babalon herself.
Babalon made it clear that I was on my own and that I had to
learn how to handle her energies through solitary workings with
her, through the medium of an erotically supercharged form of
entrancement and corporeal communion. Over the years, I found
that when I strayed from her mandate the consequences were
dramatic and often dire.

After decades of work, I now understand why there were such
strict parameters placed around the practice. The process of
inner cultivation and dialogue with Babalon is not a restriction
on sexual activity, rather, it is concerned with how one orientates
and channels ones energies within the 156. However, as the
process itself is initially concerned with creating a fully activated
magical body and the radical reconstruction of one's subtle
anatomy, it's clear that engaging in orthodox, heterosexual
polarity workings can sabotage this process entirely and negate
the development of the adept female formulas of the 156 current.
It was therefore of primary importance that the magical body
should be crystallized first to enable one to act with full agency
within the current. There was little of reference to be found that
supported my aspirations to a practice that was focused solely
upon Babalon as a magical intelligence in her own right,
and so I began I very long, solitary journey,
in which I began excavating the occult anatomy of her
mysteries and how one might engage with these within a
progressive practice. I should be clear that I'm not against
heterosexual rites, quite the contrary, but I feel that these sexual
formulas need to be reformed and brought into full alignment
with the 156.

Unique to the dynamics of 156 is development of some very
specific 'earthing' formulas which work in tandem with a process
of inner cultivation of TETH. It is a very lengthy and complex
process of transformation in which one has to completely
reconfigure ones energetic and physical state to enable one to
become a vessel that can withstand the onslaught of the
erotic-kinetic maelstrom of Babalon. However, it is possible to
articulate the parameters of her magic and defining the territory
is essential to any ongoing manifestation. To communicate this
in any way, some form of systematisation is necessary.

The magic of 156 challenges the textualism of many orthodox
magical systems and defies any form of conventional hierarchy.
However, by definition any form of practice must have a learning
curve and clear objectives, in the 156 system this is defined by a
gradual syzygy with the 'Body of Babalon' through a series of
recognizable stages, a complex sex magical gnosis that gradually
awakens the full activation of the current with the body/psyche."

The Mother Destruction project was launched in 1990 with the release of the 'Seething' Album. The title relates to the erotic-kinetic, energy at the core of the 156 system.

Creating Babalon, Crowley, Parsons, Hubbard, Sex Rituals, Occult Connections - Paul Green

Talking Babalon with Scarlet Imprint

"Thou shalt recognize by the sign. BABALON is born! It is new birth, all things are changed, the signs, the symbols, the every- thing!"

67. The work of the image, and the potion and the charm, the work of the spider and the snake, and the little ones that go in the dark, this is your work.

36. But let her think on this: my way is not in the solemn ways, or in the reasoned ways, but in the wild free way of the eagle, and the devious way of the serpent, and the oblique way of the factor unknown and unnumbered.- Liber49

But now the darkness is riven through
and the robes of sin are gone,
And naked she stands as a terrible blade
and a flame and a splendid song"

Sing the rap- turous love songs unto me! Burn to me perfume!
Drink to me, for I love you! I love you!

I am the blue lidded daughter of sunset, I am the naked brilliance of the voluptuous night sky.
To me. To me."

-Liber 49

Paraphrased from Wiki:
Brighid was a goddess of pre-Christian Ireland. She Appears in Irish Mythology as a member of the Tuatha De Danann, the daughter of the Dagda, and the wife of Bres, with whom she has a son named Ruadan.

It has been suggested that Brighid is a continuation of the Indo-European dawn Goddess. She I associated with the spring seaon, fertility, healing, poetry, and smith craft. from Cormac's glossary "Brigid was the goddess poets adored."

Inanna is an ancient Mesopotamian goddess associated with love, beauty, sex, desire, fertility, war,justice, political power. She was originally worshipped in Sumer and was later worshipped by the Akkadians, Babylonians, and Assyrians under the name Ishtar. She was known as "the Queen of Heaven"... She was associated with the planet Venus and her most prominent symbols include the lion and the eight-pointed star.

Aya is Akkadian for "dawn" and by the Akkadian period she was firmly associated with the rising sun and with sexual love and youth. The Babylonians sometimes referred to her as kallatu, the bride, and as such she was known as the wife of Shamash.

From Tower of Babel wiki, etymology:

The phrase "Tower of Babel" does not appear in the bible, it is always "the city and the tower" or just "the city". The original derivation of the name Babel (also the Hebrew name for Babylon) is uncertain. The native, Akkadian name of the city was Bab-ilim, meaning "gate of God". However that form and interpretation itself are now usually thought to be the result of and Akkadian folk etymology applied to an earlier form of the name Babilla, of unknown meaning and probably non-semitic origin. According to the Bible, the city received the name Babel from the Hebrew word Balal meaning to jumble or confuse.–-part-five-–-trump-tower-the-invocation

Primer: The inverted triangle and Baal worship.

The inverted triangle has several layered meanings, but it's origin is found in the ancient fertility cult of Babylon.

When the children of Israel migrated to the promise land, they were exposed to the fertility cult in the land of Canaan where Baal and Asherah were worshiped. Baal worship is a sexual religion at its core.

Many modern Christians erroneously think that the main attraction of Baal worship was bowing down to idols and statues. But the real attraction, was the sexual activity that goes along with it.
During their rituals, it was common for orgies to break out as the people acted out in lascivious behavior to please their fertility god. And thus, their participation was just an excuse for the people to participate in fleshly depravity.
Mankind has never changed. Today the residents of earth also take part in ritualistic fornication under the guise of pagan fertility rituals, satanic black mass, the Beltane Festival, Burning Man, Spring Break Vacation, and a list that is too long to mention. We could even add that todays counterpart to Baal worship is sexual addiction and pornography.

These things take place across the world and especially in America. According to Revelation 17: 1-2, mystery Babylon is guilty of the following:

"Come, I will show you the judgement of the great harlot who sits on many waters, with whom kings of the earth committed fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth were made drunk with the wine of her fornication."

The above is a description of Mystery Babylon's sexual decadence.

Burning Man

It is not just one person participating in this. The Burning Man festival is an annual event where tens of thousands of people show up in the desert to have an orgy. In the image below ten of thousands of people made a city in the desert to act out in hedonistic pleasure.
Baal worship is everywhere
And let us not forget spring break, which has become one of the cultural staples of America's young people as they make their passage into adulthood. This occurs every year by the millions.
As I just mentioned, the children of Israel were confronted with the temptation of fertility worship when they entered the promised land and were introduced to Baal And Asherah. They were instructed to tear down the alters to her.
Asherah goes by several names depending on the geographical region where she is worshiped; Astarte, Ashtoreth, Atargatis, Athirat, Venus, Isis, Juno, Ishtar, the queen of heaven, Aphrodite, Hadad, and many others.
Her horns were symbolic of mountain peaks. The inverted triangle of Asherah represents the female anatomy. The inverted triangle can be seen in these images of Ashera that were taken from rubbings of archaeological sites. (refer to original link for images)
As you can see, the inverted triangle was a part of Ashera's renderings and represented the female, while Baal represented the male anatomy with the use of pillars and poles.
An excerpt from Kaos by Joel Biroco

" It is worth pointing out how the 156 correspondence is derived. I Originally changed chaos to kaos in1987 as a result of channeled information rather than Hebrew gematria, although it is indeed corroborated by the changing of Cheth to Kaph. It is interesting to note in Crowley's scrying in 1909 of the 3rd aethyer in the vision and the voice "...chaos, that I the four-fold word that is equal to the seven fold word." The seven fold word Is of course, Babalon...

"The 156 current, the occult formula of Kaos-Babalon, emerged out of Crowleys scrying of the third aethyrs in 1909 in Algeria.. It is the contention of KAOS that the 93 current and the 156 current are not separate currents but points in the process. The 93 current is effectively dead now, with Thelemic orthodoxy clinging to it's empty shell, the 156 carries forward the reformulated current. "
"I regard the 156 current as an essentially underground current of frontline occultism and the true successor to what was the 93 current of Thelema (now another nostalgia current) and also the chaos current, both outmoded by Kaos-Babalon yet foreshadowed in both. It was an idea before it's time, or something that is practiced away from the crowd.. but I laid down everything about the current in Kaos 13.
I didn't kill the chaos current, actually I saved it for the future. Now that work is not easily available and my inclination Is to let sleeping dogs lie. I'm doing other stuff now, although I guess something drew me here to tell you these things, to fill you in on "your chaos heritage." Many "chaos magicians" think the origins of the current don't matter and think being ahistorical is cool and iconoclastic, but it just means they are doomed to run on the spot, never swelling a progress. "

Apparently he (Parsons), or Hubbard, or somebody, is producing a Moonchild. I get fairly frantic when I contemplate the idiocy of these goats.-Crowley in a letter to Karl Germer
Very cool! I recently heard of this once again via the scarlet imprint website. wish I could go, look like an interesting lineup for sure.