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 on: June 10, 2022, 05:34:15 am 
Started by Temixochitzin - Last post by Temixochitzin
¿Alguien sabe si existe un Servidor Anti-Obesity o Sigil?

 on: April 13, 2022, 05:46:11 am 
Started by Moon1ight - Last post by Moon1ight
Draft: Theodicy of Khaos

In our Universe, one can find Fulfilment by doing one's True Will together with one's True Love, the Guardian Angel. However, it is not easy – it doesn't come naturally. That's the part which is hard to make sense of: If Khaos – the Root of all Phenomena – wants its little parts to be fulfilled, why doesn't this come naturally? Why are we not born with the feeling that someone lovingly watches over us, why does the Knowledge and Conversation have to be obtained? Why do we have to "find ourselves" – which many fail to do – instead of just realising quickly that "I'm a pianist" or a rock-climber or a mage? I'm tempted to answer something along the lines of "The Demiurge built the material world this way", "The Veil of Paroketh prevents it" or "Thagirion gets in the way", but that only moves the problem of Theodicy one step further – why do these entities exist?

On the other hand, if Khaos places no special value on Fulfilment, then why is it possible at all? Why can the Veil be pierced in the first place?
I know of no plausible explanation and would very much like to hear yours. However, I found a somewhat implausible one that I have to accept as working theory for the time being. It was presented by Scott Alexander and he clearly means it as satire:
Rewritten to my framework it goes like this:

Khaos maximises Fulfilment over the Multiverse. So there is a perfect universe without any Veils where all souls are born with the Knowledge of their True Will and in Contact with their True Love. However, there can only be one such universe. To create more Fulfilment, Khaos also has to also think of a slightly less perfect universe, with more distractions and impediments, and so on all the way down to to a universe that has just barely more Fulfilment than Suffering (or whatever the opposite of Fulfilment is for you). A universe with more Suffering than Fulfilment would be a net loss and therefore does not get created. And we probably live in a universe on the lower end of the spectrum, which is why Fulfilment is possible but difficult.

Edit: A friend quickly pointed out that Khaos might also just value the difficulty in itself. It's certainly thinkable. However, as my Angel keeps reminding me the underlying metaphysics don't matter much – what counts is to actually do your True Will together with your True Love.
Edit 2: A note derived from Scott Alexander's work: The amount of Fulfilment in a universe is obviously not constant, but  shrinks and grows with time. A universe gets created if and only if it will contain more Fulfilment than Suffering during the course of it's entire existence. This means that the Veil might well be removable, so that much more Fulfilment becomes possible!

 on: March 22, 2022, 06:56:41 pm 
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Thank you both! :)

 on: March 22, 2022, 08:35:27 am 
Started by VoidicSorcerer - Last post by FISHSTICKS

 on: March 22, 2022, 08:34:46 am 
Started by 23nyarlathotep23 - Last post by FISHSTICKS
Welcome, fellow Zee.

 on: March 22, 2022, 08:34:17 am 
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 on: March 22, 2022, 08:33:59 am 
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 on: March 22, 2022, 01:43:25 am 
Started by AveMayhaps - Last post by Moon1ight
I wish to bring magic and illusion to the decidedly disillusioned,
Now that's something I really like hearing :)
I'm probably the only active member on the forum. However, I've notified the Discord staff that there are folks waiting for an invite here, so hopefully either I or someone else will get back to you soon.

Or have you already received the invite?

 on: March 22, 2022, 01:32:36 am 
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"Curiouser & curiouser!" indeed!

Welcome to the Sleepy Forums – I'm quite partial to them myself and there is a lot of good material here to read.

If you want to talk to anyone but me though, it is probably best to join either the Discord or the Facebook group. The latter you can just apply for on FB itself, whereas for the former you need an invite. If you express this desire here, either a Discord staff member will see it and send you one, or I will tell them :)

The true "Beginner's Guide" to the DKMU is this:
For another new member, I had compiled some other introductory material here:
The link to my own Occultcorpus-text is down, but if you want to read me (for some reason), you can read this:

 on: March 17, 2022, 07:59:10 pm 
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I go by Null, calling me ∅ works just as well. While there doesn't appear to be much activity here (sad, I've always been partial to forums to tell the truth), I have decided to join here anyway. I've been lead by some interesting synchronicities from the moment I went off to learn about DKMU last night on a whim for no discernable reason. I had known only the name but not much more beyond that but it sort of started randomly gnawing at me a bit to do so.

I'm extremely curious about everything to do with DKMU. I feel a sort of connection to the information I have read so far and I want to go even deeper down the rabbit hole.

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