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When will order and control decline?

Started by Order's Bane, April 03, 2015, 04:22:01 AM

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Order's Bane

Not exactly sure where this belongs since it concerns the order principle of politics and possible metaphysical theories.

So why exactly is Chaos and anything that is really awkward/different often very looked down upon today in this world or is it just more common in the anglosphere? And a principle of order, control and conformity is so dominant in this world? From everyday life it extends into politics.

In everyday life you get the "normal" or "not normal/weird" category like in some parts of Australia which is quite open among teems. Those in the abnormal category are often not very looked on well or hardly noticed in this world/reality. Conformity to tradition and certain ways of behaviour is strongly encouraged and looked up upon, so is obedience to those with power over you. While being abnormal is discouraged and seen as "weird", sucking up to those incharge despite how they treat you is looked up upon while questioning them such as if they mistreat you is seen as "immature".

This also exists in the form of Pseudo-Democracy in politics in which all you get is a vote that doesn't even make much of a difference because of something like a two party system and them having more money than smaller parties anyway and only them being recognized as official. The U.S government opposes all forms of revolt from less order based things, systems/ways different from it and tries to enforce "order" and it's own ways on others around the world though they were only sometimes better. But it's still technically an oligarchy and not true democracy. World policing to keep Order and promote it and "peaceful reform/working within the framework at all times" as a principle. Stopping possible new and better ways from arising. Because of order as a principle people are really domesticated and most never take any action against policies that take away rights and freedoms.

There is also the veil which may have been stronger than past times. Who is responsible for these? Are there some kind of "higher beings" promoting Order, Control and keeping it as a dominant principle? If so when will order and control stop being so dominant in this world both as a principle and its metaphysical counterpart as "the veil" and lose its strength? When will the decline of the veil/order and control happen?

Have no idea whether this belongs here or in the theory section.

Frater Theodbald

In a sense, people can say that this is how culture has evolved.  A self-feeding loop, where order and control is continuously rewarded and reinforced.  There is also the fact that success through order and control takes less mental energy than to actually grow up and have an intelligent society.  The Less Evolved population who can't think in higher terms of order and control will always be in greater number than the more evolved population, and hence benifit the advantage of strenth in numbers.


Collective evolution is a slow difficult and tedious process, and it's rather easy to get dragged back down again.
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Order's Bane

Quote from: Frater Theodbald on April 03, 2015, 10:46:22 PM
In a sense, people can say that this is how culture has evolved.  A self-feeding loop, where order and control is continuously rewarded and reinforced.  There is also the fact that success through order and control takes less mental energy than to actually grow up and have an intelligent society.  The Less Evolved population who can't think in higher terms of order and control will always be in greater number than the more evolved population, and hence benifit the advantage of strenth in numbers.


Collective evolution is a slow difficult and tedious process, and it's rather easy to get dragged back down again.

Not only that. The way of order has gone too far, it also goes against/suppresses what is right now. An example is the education system's rigidness and along with corporation owners' dictating how it works giving it more rigidness. It takes away a lot of free time that can be used for things like being with friends, family, other work in society and more. As well as not necessarily being able to choose what you are good at as subjects. Rigid, trains people to be obedient/robotic. All in the name of productively keeping order functioning.

Ringtail

Groups that emphasize conformity are, by their nature, more cohesive than those that do not, so they have the numbers. We can fight back, because stifling a person like that kills their effectiveness. A genius is worth a thousand wage slaves.


And there sure as hell are some "higher beings" promoting order, stupidity and general helplessness among the population. Look in the direction the money flows.


You have no idea how many Jesuses I are.