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#1
General Occultism / Re: CDIA system
December 10, 2013, 06:51:04 AM
Holy shit m8, so many edges. What are you, a 13 year old wannabe satanist?
#2
General Occultism / Re: CDIA system
December 09, 2013, 02:30:33 AM
Google gives nothing but some Hi-fi store.
#3
How?
#4
Networking / Re: Step away from the facebooks!
August 30, 2013, 05:26:27 PM
I've personally found Diaspora to be perfect for most of my purposes. The problem with it is that there's really not much of an occult community on.
But that can be changed, no? ;)
#5
Chaos Magic & Beyond / Re: Insofar
August 08, 2013, 02:58:33 AM
Yeah. The good thing about this is that the "victim" doesn't have a link which they can break. This is extremely useful when doing long-term operations which demand some level of discretion.
#6
Chaos Magic & Beyond / Re: Insofar
August 07, 2013, 04:26:05 PM
They were both specific and general. For example, I'd have LS in the middle, a few sigils pertaining to specific people, a few referring to groups, some institutions, some places which I frequent, etc.
Generally linking LS to various things by sigils which represent them, instead of just putting LS on them.
#7
Chaos Magic & Beyond / Re: Insofar
August 06, 2013, 04:16:00 AM
For all that it's worth, I've used Ellis to break people's inhibitions against magick and liminal states in particular.
What I did was, I placed the LS on the center of the page, and began placing sigils which represented people, areas and ideas around it, in a way that every once of them connected. It worked to an extent, but then, it was a crapton of material, so it might come to completion after all.
#8
General Occultism / Re: CDIA system
July 27, 2013, 08:22:00 AM
Quote from: Morten Birkedal on July 27, 2013, 12:02:47 AM
But this is black magic, not white. Instead of dissolving the ego, you become Choronzon, as a devil, a chief of demons.
The distinction you are making shows a lack of understanding of magic altogether.
All morality is subjective, and there are no absolutes. Re-evaluate your approach; do you want to be an edgy-oh-so-durk-chaote, or do you want to be taken seriously? If the latter, you best do your research on what Choronzon actually IS, and not just base your opinions on what you heard or thought up. Not that becoming Choronzon is impossible, but it's certainly difficult, and when you accomplish it, you'll be disappointed to find that what you were before is now Choronzon.

TL;DR: don't be a faggot, do your research.
#9
General Occultism / Re: CDIA system
June 21, 2013, 04:47:30 AM
I find it highly interesting that you'd put Choronzon (who isn't part of any of the pantheons you mentioned, and is a very specific entity):

Quote from: Morten Birkedal on April 20, 2013, 09:46:54 PM
The beings I use are not new, but a mix of lovecraftian, jewish and one olympic.

In fact, Choronzon is (at least in my current understanding) the one who dissolves the boundary between the conscious and unconscious mind (which is, in the A.'.A.'., the ordeal of the Abyss).

Coming back where I was, I think it's unusual that you would wish to confront neophytes with this sort of ordeal. Especially since this is an initiatory system, one would think that you'd leave the hardest part of it for the end. But let me explain why this doesn't make sense in a stricter context (since you're using the good ol' tree, you surely have delved into the way  the Sephiroth themselves interact with the Nightside).

For starters, your attribution is Choronzon - Malkuth.
Malka is of Solar nature (due to the Iesod-Da'ath and Kether-Tiphreth-Malkuth harmonies), and so by placing Choronzon into an aspirant's consciousness would create a major dissonance. At this point, mind-control and other hypnotic suggestions are extremely easy to input. Furthermore, Choronzon is also know as "that guy who fucks shit up". Placing him in conjunction with physical matter is asking for trouble, especially concerning health and money. This alone breaks the very foundation all  magic is based on (and no, I have not seen one disincarnate magician in my decade of practice).

But you say:
Quote from: Morten Birkedal on April 20, 2013, 09:46:54 PM
The first being to work with is Choronzon. He is the key in which the initiate gains control over his inner demons, and learns of the Qlipphoth.

Control over the inner demons by letting them run wild? That is an interesting notion, however even in the A.'.A.'., when we do nothing more than oath the Probationers to discover the nature and powers of their own being (which is as a speck of dust to the vast desert of Choronzon), 90% fail. Now, given the intensity and nature of Choronzon, I'd be surprised if ANY person at all passed through that grade you just described.

As for the Qliphoth, there is no need to learn of them for the Neophyte who doesn't know black from white on the astral plane. There is no justification to drop an aspirant in a state of confusion and utter helplessness into the Qliphoth, where he will confront further difficulties due to his inability to project himself astrally.
Verily, taking these things lightly will only result in hurt.

Of course, I am speaking from a rather traditional point of view (as those Entities are based in it). If the theoretical neophyte was on a hard (and I mean HARD) regimen of yoga and magic, in a well-structured way, sure, it could work. But it's still pretty damn pointless given the entirely imbalanced way the system is structured.
What I mean to say is, you'd be pretty damn dumb to try and master the sephiroth from the outside where you'll be constantly facing a counter-current that will only get stronger the more you try and force your way. This, again, relates to the relationship between the shells and sephiroth - the shells are those parts of the sephiroth which have given in to putrefaction, are corrupted and generally not very nice to work with. On the other hand, the core of the sephiroth is their power in pure form.

Certainly, mastering one without the other will result in pain, however it's much easier and more productive to go from the inside out, as well as not omitting the Tunnels of Set while you're at it.

/rant

PS. First post, hello & whatever. Is the IRC always dead?